Comments on: Vortex Ring State (formerly Settling with Power) http://wikirfm.cyclicandcollective.net Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:37:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Adam http://wikirfm.cyclicandcollective.net/wikirfm-pplh/settling-with-power/comment-page-1/#comment-713 Adam Wed, 16 Jun 2010 03:04:30 +0000 http://wikirfm.cyclicandcollective.net/?page_id=739#comment-713 I think the lesson is fine. 1500 AGL is a great altitude to practice settling with power. You could be higher, but you don't want to be any lower, especially if you let VRS develop and explain whats happening for a bit before you recover. I see nothing that warrants the first post.. The 60 knot attitude comment could confuse some people. Your talking about achieving that nose low attitude, which is correct....some people may get hung up on the 60 knots part (your not recommending achieving 60 knots, just a 60 knot attitude).. Great idea for a site.. Ill definitely contribute.. CFII I think the lesson is fine. 1500 AGL is a great altitude to practice settling with power. You could be higher, but you don’t want to be any lower, especially if you let VRS develop and explain whats happening for a bit before you recover. I see nothing that warrants the first post..

The 60 knot attitude comment could confuse some people. Your talking about achieving that nose low attitude, which is correct….some people may get hung up on the 60 knots part (your not recommending achieving 60 knots, just a 60 knot attitude)..

Great idea for a site.. Ill definitely contribute..

CFII

]]> By: Chris http://wikirfm.cyclicandcollective.net/wikirfm-pplh/settling-with-power/comment-page-1/#comment-712 Chris Mon, 14 Jun 2010 19:39:26 +0000 http://wikirfm.cyclicandcollective.net/?page_id=739#comment-712 I've double-checked this lesson plan, and still think it's appropriate. You can read about the resources that went into it in <a href="http://wikirfm.cyclicandcollective.net/2010/06/you-are-correct-i-dont-know-everything/" rel="nofollow">this post</a>. I’ve double-checked this lesson plan, and still think it’s appropriate. You can read about the resources that went into it in this post.

]]> By: You Are Correct: I Don’t Know Everything | http://wikirfm.cyclicandcollective.net/wikirfm-pplh/settling-with-power/comment-page-1/#comment-711 You Are Correct: I Don’t Know Everything | Mon, 14 Jun 2010 16:46:58 +0000 http://wikirfm.cyclicandcollective.net/?page_id=739#comment-711 [...] week I received a comment on the Settling with Power lesson plan, but didn’t see it until recently (spam filters [...] [...] week I received a comment on the Settling with Power lesson plan, but didn’t see it until recently (spam filters [...]

]]> By: Chris http://wikirfm.cyclicandcollective.net/wikirfm-pplh/settling-with-power/comment-page-1/#comment-706 Chris Tue, 08 Jun 2010 15:36:17 +0000 http://wikirfm.cyclicandcollective.net/?page_id=739#comment-706 For some reason your comment got sent to the spam folder and I didn't see it until I started doing some maintenance today. All feedback is welcome, but I'd appreciate it if you elaborate on this some--the whole point of this site is to communicate training techniques. I'm reviewing this lesson plan to ensure that it is consistent with the sources that I usually go to (the R22 Maneuver Guide, and the Transport Canada, Australian CASA helicopter training guides). I think part of the problem is (based on the PPRUNE discussion) that I, like many other students, was taught <em>incipient</em> VRS, where we recover "at the first signs" of VRS. If this is the case, many students leave their training thinking they know VRS when in fact they're experiencing something well short of it. Is this a problem? Only if we think we're learning VRS, and not realizing that we're really learning avoidance. Thoughts? For some reason your comment got sent to the spam folder and I didn’t see it until I started doing some maintenance today. All feedback is welcome, but I’d appreciate it if you elaborate on this some–the whole point of this site is to communicate training techniques. I’m reviewing this lesson plan to ensure that it is consistent with the sources that I usually go to (the R22 Maneuver Guide, and the Transport Canada, Australian CASA helicopter training guides). I think part of the problem is (based on the PPRUNE discussion) that I, like many other students, was taught incipient VRS, where we recover “at the first signs” of VRS. If this is the case, many students leave their training thinking they know VRS when in fact they’re experiencing something well short of it. Is this a problem? Only if we think we’re learning VRS, and not realizing that we’re really learning avoidance. Thoughts?

]]> By: C Jaeger http://wikirfm.cyclicandcollective.net/wikirfm-pplh/settling-with-power/comment-page-1/#comment-698 C Jaeger Thu, 27 May 2010 13:11:20 +0000 http://wikirfm.cyclicandcollective.net/?page_id=739#comment-698 This is far too erroneous. It is conflicting in places and the entry height is suicidal. If you don't understand the topic, please don't spread your solutions on it to everyone else??? This is far too erroneous. It is conflicting in places and the entry height is suicidal.
If you don’t understand the topic, please don’t spread your solutions on it to everyone else???

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